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Market Place => Seen for Sale on Ebay, etc. => Topic started by: 492 on Nov 26 2013 17:41

Title: LBSC's Nightmare.
Post by: 492 on Nov 26 2013 17:41
Hi All.

This could be your nightmare too.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-5-gauge-3-64mm-4-12-2-leadbetter-coal-fired-live-steam-loco-very-old-113-cm-/370912054975?pt=DE_Modellbau_Modelleisenbahnen&hash=item565c14cebf

Enjoy.

492. Robert.
Title: Re: LBSC's Nightmare.
Post by: cabbage on Nov 26 2013 17:55
I can safely state that it will not go around my gauge widened curves! I cannot think what LBSC was thinking of? The only loco I know that has that configuration is an american loco of the Union Pacific, but to be honest that looks like it should have come out of Doncaster(?)

Interesting -but no thanks!

regards

ralph
Title: Re: LBSC's Nightmare.
Post by: AllWight on Nov 26 2013 18:07
I did the Folkestone model railway Show a month ago and on the local model engineering society stand they had a 4-12-2 tender engine as well as a model of a Henry greenly RHDR 4-6-2 tender engine both in 2.5" gauge. Apparently the big engine needed a minimum of 17' radius. Both were finished to a superb standard.

Mark
Title: Re: LBSC's Nightmare.
Post by: 454 on Nov 26 2013 18:13
Same Ebay seller of LBSC loco is selling some seemingly very smart bogie coaches in Gauge 3.
Worth a look.

Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: LBSC's Nightmare.
Post by: MikeWilliams on Nov 26 2013 21:04
I'm sure this is the chap who bought several lots of Mike May's from Trains galore auction 2 years ago, and then slapped them straight on e-bay at double the price.  These look like the remains of that lot as they are clearly old models, but professionally painted and lined to make them very presentable.

Mike
Title: Re: LBSC's Nightmare.
Post by: John Baguley on Nov 27 2013 10:22
Is it my imagination or are the wheels different diameters? The coupling rods have a definite 'kink' in them which would make running very interesting!

LBSC's Caterpillar was supposed to be the result of a bad headache which probably explains a lot! There's a few of them around. LBSC's original version was 4 cylinder I believe but the design published in English Mechanics had 3.

John
Title: Re: LBSC's Nightmare.
Post by: AllWight on Nov 27 2013 11:37
Some of the driving wheels are flangeless like the BR Std 9F. The long wheelbase would also necessitate flexible knuckle joints on the coupling rods. Some industrial engines in the uk had knuckle joints on their coupling rods. The easy example of seeing a knuckle joint on a loco is the Hartz mountain railway 2-10-2T.

Mark
Title: Re: LBSC's Nightmare.
Post by: John Baguley on Nov 28 2013 17:44
Had an interesting email today with more information about the loco. The Caterpillar and all the other locos in the B/W photos were built by Edward Adams who was a prolific builder in 2½" and who wrote in Model Engineer under the name 'Tyro'. He was also a good friend of LBSC.

The oversize wheels have a Vee groove machined in the wheel as an experiment to improve adhesion. Thats why they sit higher than the normal wheels. I think Monstrous had one set machined the same as I remember seeing this when the loco was on the N25GA stand one year at the Fosse.

The driver in one of the photos may be Adams himself, maybe on his own track at home?

John