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Motive Power => Multiple Units, Railcars and Trams => Topic started by: Robert Shrives on Apr 05 2014 13:34

Title: commode handles for DMU
Post by: Robert Shrives on Apr 05 2014 13:34
Hi Gang, first post on joining Forum so here goes.

I too have the GRS 121 bubble car -slowly working through and enjoying it. One question on handles and grabs - does any soul make a cast brass/white metal handle and grab handle/ commode handles - with umptythree doors each side a good looking affair is my desire. 

I did try at Kingscale as the Mark one door gear is the same but no was the reply only into selling complete coaches.

Many thanks for any help
Robert Shrives
Title: Re: commode handles for DMU
Post by: 454 on Apr 05 2014 16:00
Hi Robert
Got a bit worried when you were asking about commode handles, not got to that time of life yet.

However, Kingscale coaches are made by Bowande in China so you could send them an email for nowt.

Welcome to the forum.

Cheers
Dave
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Title: Re: commode handles for DMU
Post by: AllWight on Apr 05 2014 17:34
Hi

I have built a bubble at and kit bashed two bubble cars into a 117 2 car unit. For the grab handles I used the brass rod as supplied in the kit.

Mark.
Title: Re: commode handles for DMU
Post by: Geoff Nicholls on Apr 05 2014 19:12
I've also got a class 121, but hadn't thought about the grab handles yet.  I'd be happy to draw one and get a 3D pattern printed, if there are others interested in a set cast in brass?
Title: Re: commode handles for DMU
Post by: MikeWilliams on Apr 05 2014 20:06
Does anyone have dimensions to hand?  I made some similar D handles for a VofR carriage a few years back and they just might be the right size.  I had them cast in brass.

Mike
Title: Re: commode handles for DMU
Post by: Robert Shrives on Apr 06 2014 11:25
Hi Also emailed Bowande last night.  UK made items might be possible. I did hunt for drawings a while back but no luck so far Current Vor R stock does have have the BR type so this would indeed br a source, as would the BR T type door handle.

Thanks for replies so far
Robert   
Title: Re: commode handles for DMU
Post by: Geoff Nicholls on Apr 06 2014 11:31
the GRS kit has the handle fixing 10mm apart.
Title: Re: commode handles for DMU
Post by: blagdon on Apr 06 2014 22:30
Having been on one of Chiltern Railways Heritage 'Bubble' cars that used to work Princes Risborough  to Aylesbury line, it is little wonder that those travelling by commode need handles - they rocked quite a lot on points and curves!

Sorry chaps, just couldn't resist.
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Seriously though, if DMUs are like older Heritage stock, every builder would have used different shaped commode handles, so check photos of prototype first.

Ian the Gauge '3' Pirate and Mrs 'Hop-along-Cassidy' Pirate
Title: Re: commode handles for DMU
Post by: MikeWilliams on Apr 07 2014 10:25
Here's the handles I have.  They were done for a friend restoring some vintage handbuilt models and may be no good at all.  I only actually have one sprue remaining, but can easily order more.  The rule is mm.

They are: commode handle, door T handle, footboard bracket (probably VoR specific) and door stop.  Of course, if you only want the commode handle you'll have to take the others too - sorry!

Mike
Title: Re: commode handles for DMU
Post by: MikeWilliams on Apr 07 2014 10:26
and another photo of the same sprue.

Mike
Title: Re: commode handles for DMU
Post by: Robert Shrives on Apr 18 2014 15:39
Hi gang, no progress todate trying to find a clear picture of door for Bowande. 

Mike, thanks for pictures , sadly not right for BR std design which has a cranked end but lovely looking castings all the same.

Robert 
Title: Re: commode handles for DMU
Post by: 454 on Apr 18 2014 17:12
Hope this is clear enough for you. A Bowande BR Mk1 coach door & its detail in close scrutiny.

Dave
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