Not ebay this time. On the facebook garden railway trading forum an advert has appeared for what is described as a Gauge 3 DMU set in need of attention. It's 3 Car and configured for 3 rail operation asking £275 Whilst this is a closed group the seller is Simon Whenmouth of Anything Narrow Gauge https://anythingnarrowgauge.co.uk/contact-us (https://anythingnarrowgauge.co.uk/contact-us)
Thanks Chris, it's actually a 2-car set, possibly Class 121 or 122. I'm looking at the pictures now with a possible interest in purchase.
Lets us hope you have plenty of time on your hands to restore those two Peaky.
I've decided against this pair of Class 121/122, but I'll attempt to add the pictures below in case anyone else is interested. The price is very fair and he is prepared to post up from sunny Devon.
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A few lots of G3 items in this auction if anyone is interested. (Lots 716-718)
Sale date 30th June 2020. Very low estimates.
https://auctions.specialauctionservices.com/m/view-auctions/catalog/id/69?page=15
Robert. 492
I'm sure I've travelled in DMUs in worse nik than these!
John
Quote from: 492 on Jun 16 2020 21:57
A few lots of G3 items in this auction if anyone is interested. (Lots 716-718)
Sale date 30th June 2020. Very low estimates.
https://auctions.specialauctionservices.com/m/view-auctions/catalog/id/69?page=15
Robert. 492
Also Lot 715 (Cliff Barker G3 track and points)
Some interesting stuff up there to be sure. Not familiar with the site though and wondering if anyone can clarify how the auctioning works in comparison to say eBay. Does the bid end at a fixed point i.e. 10am with the winner bidder paying the minimum reserve if unchallenged or the maximum they've dared to put in? If there are multiple bids is there any way of knowing before it is over?
Regards
Steve
Don't forget there is 20% buyers premium + possible VAT on those auction items.
Reading the small print, they are a 'traditional' auction house, but you can bid 'live' on-line during the auction, or you can submit a bidding form which gives your maximum bid (so they bid on your behalf, but getting it "as cheaply as possible").
Andy
Not sure if a discussion of an auction house belongs here or if a new topic should be raised but just adding to the thread drift the Auction House in question (SAS Newbury) have been holding regular specialist trains auctions for some years. Their guide prices tend to be quite accurate for the smaller scales but gauge 1 upwards often vary significantly from what is actually achieved. It is possible to see prices achieved using their catalogues from previous sales.
This auction is being operated under social distancing rules so there is no public viewing or admission. Anybody interested in these items should therefore take advantage of the detailed ways to get more information explained on https://auctions.specialauctionservices.com/m/view-auctions/info/id/69 (https://auctions.specialauctionservices.com/m/view-auctions/info/id/69) and also to note that unlike ebay who haven't yet started to charge a buyers premium SAS like most auction houses add a 20% premium to the hammer price together with VAT on this premium so an £800 hammer price becomes £992 to pay. If using a third party bidding site such as the saleroom a further fee is also added. To be fair all is clearly explained in the catalogue. Of course as the auction house will also be charging the seller a % fee and possibly additional charges it becomes clear (with reference to another thread about fair prices) that the estate of a member selling up will do well to realise much more than around 60% of the perceived worth of the model to the final purchaser. Seen in those terms the commission sale opportunities offered by some dealers look attractive.
Thanks guys. I had read the small print concerning the VAT add on and such but social distancing or no I'm still not 100% on how things come down to the wire. Presumably all pre-placed bids are automatically put against the minimum estimation/reserve and then you factor in any bidding forms that have been filled out as well but while this Roy Chambers collection is spread out over two days the countdown display is somehow simultaneous for Lots 491 to 948? Is there actually a 'live' bid via a video stream/screen display which allows monitoring and further bidding or is it all over the moment all pre-bids have been put in? With say Virtual Visit Auction the clock is given an extra three or so minutes if anyone makes a late bid to prevent last second sniping, does that happen here showing what the bid has gone up to?
I've not used the SAS live auction software but normally this type of auction house requires pre-registration and then you watch the auction live and bid live as if in the room. The auctions I've watched or been involved with typically go through 80+ lots per hour and online bidders are expected to be as quick as those in the room. It is the actions of the auctioneer in the room which controls the price but of course they or an assistant can see what is happening on line. Bidding may be further complicated with telephone bids but all bidders will be able to see or at least hear the auctioneer and it may become obvious that online bidders are running ahead of the auctioneer but the auctioneer will see that and may suddenly start calling for much more than previously to get ahead of them.
Like all auctions there is no substitute for being present either virtually or for real as the auctioneer is often at liberty to open the bidding at the highest bid left with them so you either don't get a bargain by leaving a bid which is too high or risk somebody else immediately going beyond your bid. The auctioneer is actually acting for the seller to maximise the hammer price and like most of life it is always a case of buyer beware.
Good luck if you choose to bid.
YES to accurate informed reality
NO to endless presumptions and guesswork
Somebody please just ring the auction house and get the facts if your that interested