Dick Allan is about to start on his latest project which is a Wainwright "D" class 4-4-0 express loco of the South Eastern & Chatham.
He is approaching it as an "upscaled" version of the G1MRA "Dee" loco project.
If anyone is interested in (or even currently) building the "D", then he would like to compare notes.
Members will find Dick's contact details on their membership list.
May I add a note to the previous post.
May I encourage members of the Society to consider building this loco. The project is well past the planning stage. Patterns have been made and are presently with the foundry. We have a very pretty lost wax casting for the combined spring and axle boxes for the tender, Sciss are water jet cutting the frames and the Association has patterns for the three wheel types that are needed.
I am hopeful that the entire project will be modeled in 3D so external details such as dome chimney and possibly the feed pump will also be available as lost wax castings as well as laser cut plate work. There should - with luck - be a full set of detailed drawings.
If you are interested the Association will be in a position to supply the castings with the other bits being available through Dick
D Class update. I have now completed the drawings up to 'compressed air/rolling chassis' stage. The cylinder block, cranks, all wheels, water pump and Ewins lubricator are all complete. I now await the frames, buffer and drag beams, etc from Sciss Ltd (should be here next week). There will then be a couple of weeks work before its ready for a compressed air trial. I am collaborating with Francis Leach who is modelling the D as it develops. We are also collaborating on a 'Super DeLuxe' model of the D with only the most unavoidable features modified from the prototype - It will even have the narrowing frames upfront and working Stephenson's valve gear. This model will take longer!
On another topic, I am developing plans and laser cutparts for two Pullman K type coaches - Fingall and Caer No 66. Drawings are available now and laser cut sides, windows and bogie frames very soon. If anyone has any ideas as to how to model the interiors by a technique that doesn't take years to follow, I'd be very pleased to hear from them
DICK ALLAN
Welcome to the Forum Dick!
Very interesting engine you are building there.
(The Editor secretly rubs his hands together in anticipation - yummy!)
In terms of "interiors" what bit did you have in mind? Seating, decoration, panelling?
Regards,
Ian T
Hi Ian
For the Pullman interiors I had in mind everything! That is partitions, chairs, tables and lamps, and of course passengers. The problem is the two pullmans I am building are totally different inside, Fingal is first class dining while car 66 is third class with 42 seats. It is probably a mad thought but you know those plastic trays they put in chocolate boxes and I wonder if an interior could be made the same way. Otherwise it will be individual items or hugely expensive doll's house items!
DICK
I have no practical experience I'm afraid Dick - but I think the standard in terms of interiors was set by Barry Lane (see page 16 - June 2008 NL). His L&Y stock have superb interiors. He describes a number of carriages but I'll quote a few bits from the article
"The (saloon) carriage is fully fitted inside with buttoned seating, hand stitched by the builder"
"The first class compartments of the composite are finished as near to original as possible. I made a mould for the seats and cast them in silicone bathroom sealant. There were too many to attempt to make them as I did on the L&Y saloon."
"The mirrors are silver gift wrapping tape and the pictures are real reductions from the book 'Beneath the Luggage Rack'."
One other model comes to mind for it's interior neatness and that is Adrian's Railmotor. He has a achieved a really nice finish inside the carriage - and one of the secrets was to use a quality 'cream' (Basildon Bond?) writing paper for the wall paper. It works really well - I'll attach a photo.
Regards,
IanT
My G3 D class has progressed to a complete chassis working on compressed air. No insuperable problems so far! The chassis will be on the 2 1/2 association's stand at the forthcoming ME show at Sandown Park.
Hi Dick
Good to hear you are making progress with your 'D', I think they are one of the most beautifully proportioned engines to have ever been built. Is there any chance you could post a photo or two of the chassis for those of us who won't be able to make Sandown?
Many Thanks
Steve
Goodness Steve - you are a demanding character!
By coincidence - Dick had his engine at the Alton RM day on Sunday - and I took a few photos for future use...
I'll attach 3 photos. a) The engine was running under compressed air -and Dick is happy with the G1MRA Dee valve design. b) He has also installed a very neat (extra) axle-driven pump in the tender. And finally - c) he has used a very small lubricator (much smaller than the usual LBSC version) - details of which are published in the December NL (that should be in the post to you and other Society Members in the very near future)
Regards,
Ian T
Quote from: IanT on Dec 07 2010 18:59
Goodness Steve - you are a demanding character!
Can we call it youthful enthusiasm Ian ;)
Thank you very much for posting those photos up, really interesting to get some close up views on the workings.
Dick - absolutely lovely piece of work, very impressive indeed.
I have much to learn.....
Steve