Attached is another old resin casting, hastily brushed with a sample of Humbrol acrylic No.2 (no primer applied).
Anybody care to comment on how the shade compares with other models they have seen (or the old Peco Wonderful Wagon kit, if you can remember that far back)?
John.
John...
The question you are asking is non-sensical if you stop and think about it for a while. The colour on the screen depends on the Gamma setting of the monitor that is being looked at. My Radius monitor is Certified PanTone Pure -whilst the iMac in the living room has a very dense colour palette -the colours on Matthews PC monitor look washed out by comparison.
The immortal question "IS this Maunsell Green?" can never be answered as Maunsell gave a length of tape to each engine shed. They "matched" the colour there from the paint that they had to hand -thus "Maunsell Green" is now greenish, blueish, yellowish or even purplish depending on the batch...
Even the colour illustrations in books and colour photos are no guide. When I wanted to paint the GIP "Krokodil" the specified colour (Brown Lake) the actual colour swatch as provided by India Rail is a Maroon.
All I can thus say is that "If you feel that is a good match -then it is a good match".
regards
ralph
Thank you Ralph.
I matched it to my screen but realised that it would not appear identical on all screens, it was really the reaction as to whether it was too light / too "grassy" that I was after but perhaps even that was too much to ask.
My thoughts are that it is too "grassy" but others (in another thread) thought it should be like fresh grass.
On the other hand, the colour suggested by the transfer producer (the sides have to be supplied ready painted) looked like the "Khaki Green" applied to Army road vehicles when I looked at the Humbrol chart in the local shop!
These samples are being prepared with a view to ready-finished and lettered bodies being added as an option to Mike's wagon range, so it is more important that the potential "customer" likes the results.
If it were purely for my own use, I would tone it down towards a mid-Brunswick shade.
Regards,
John.
Hello All
It does not look bad to me , BUT with a bit of sensitive weathering once lettered up ought to look stunning .
John
John,
From a previous thread you stated that the Kingsbury wagon was to be a pre-painted side of one of your RCH 1923 wagon kits. Do you have evidence that Kingsbury ever had such (12 Ton) wagons?
From the photo index of all published Photos the only photo I have found is in Keith Turton's First Collection, which is a repaint of an early (1894) wagon, where he states they bought new wagons from Thomas Moy in 1908/9, but doesn't record any after that. There are no photos in the HMRS collection.
There is a sketch in Book 3 of A. G. Thomas, but again this is a 7 plank 10T wagon. He states the colour was bluish green!
Derek
Derek,
The only photo I have seen is the one you have mentioned (which is where I found the "deep meadow green" description).
The Kingsbury mining operation went on well into the diesel era with BR steel hoppers (I have a magazine article somewhere) so I would imagine they would have renewed their wagon fleet at some time pre-war (in 1930s) although I have no evidence.
The suggestion for "Kingsbury" came via Mike, who was given the info by POWSides.
POWSides offer a 7mm set for 7-plank (both ends fixed) 1923 wagon.
Regards,
John.
The "Kingsbury" conundrum......... can anyone help?
I have still not been able to find a photo of a 1923 Kingsbury wagon, although logic suggests they must have renewed some of their wagons between 1923 and 1947, when the mines were nationalised under the NCB.
I have looked more closely at the POWSides transfers (which are listed as being for a 1923 RCH wagon) but, from the website illustration, the load appears to be 10 tons and the tare just 5+ tons .....neither of which would tie in with a 1923 spec. wagon.
If nobody has a photo (or printed evidence) of a 1923 spec. Kingsbury wagon, it may be wiser to skip this one.
John.