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Market Place => Seen for Sale on Ebay, etc. => Topic started by: Peaky 556 on Aug 15 2018 19:55

Title: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: Peaky 556 on Aug 15 2018 19:55
See this link if it works:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/435012076601914?view=permalink&id=1367467183356394
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: John Candy on Aug 15 2018 22:20
Only if you join Facebook it would seem!

So far as I am concerned, Facebook, Twitter, etc. are best kept at the end of a very long barge pole.

Regards,
John.
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: Peaky 556 on Aug 16 2018 08:27
For the benefit of those who live in denial of modern communication media 😁, one pic is shown below.  He has no idea of its worth and is looking for offers:
(https://thumb.ibb.co/jKXmVp/E543_E525_D5_F7_489_B_94_DC_A5_EEDB38176_D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jKXmVp)
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: IanT on Aug 16 2018 09:23
Thank you Tim - I'm also managing to survive without FB at this time (although WhatsApp is of course essential for family communication these days)

As to the frames worth - well whatever someone is willing to pay for it of course.

I've seen just as good (maybe better) sit on the Bring & Buy stand at AGMs all day with no takers. As a general rule of thumb - no more than the cost of the main castings and that dependant on the quality of work already done (very hard to judge from a photo).


Regards,


IanT
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: cabbage on Aug 16 2018 10:18
One thing that does puzzle me is that it seems to have Baker valve gear? This normally means an American or South Australian loco. At the Bring and Buy stall this year I was lucky to be on the stage and could observe any potential "prey" at ease. I bought frames, wheels and cylinder casting for a Pacific all for under £20.

If everything works then I would say £25.

Regards

Ralph
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: Spitfire2865 on Aug 16 2018 11:54
Based on the buffers and plate frames, definitely Not American. By the time we were building 10 wheelers, we were well beyond relying on British locomotive imports.
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: MikeWilliams on Aug 16 2018 12:12
So probably a model engineer design, British outline and Baker valvegear which was popular at one time for 2 1/2in.

Mike
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: Baggo on Aug 16 2018 15:52
It's a Fayette, one of LBSC's earlier and better designs.
John
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: AllWight on Aug 16 2018 16:10
The Fayette was a 4-6-2 this is a 4-6-0?

Mark
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: Baggo on Aug 16 2018 22:10
It's missing the rear trailing frames and the drag beam. The rear stretcher is there though that they attach to.

John
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: MikeWilliams on Aug 17 2018 10:19
Thank you John. I would find it very helpful to have a list with pictures of all the known commercial designs such as B-L, Stevens etc and the later engineering types too. The N2.5GA Historian is best placed for that. Do you think he might John?
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: Baggo on Aug 17 2018 12:04
Hi Mike,
I can have words with him  :)
I should have photos of most of the later LBSC, Martin Evans etc. designs. There is quite a lot of info on the N25GA website regarding designs but one job I need to do is add more photographs of actual models.
We also have the drawings for all the later design locos, the earlierJR and Bonds designs and many of the Henry Greenly GA drawings for locos, wagons and carriages.

John
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: MikeWilliams on Aug 18 2018 22:01
John,

I had not looked at the N2.5GA website recently and you are right - the list of designs there is excellent, and many with outline drawings too.  I guess what I would love to see is a Gauge 3 equivalent - i.e. commercial model engines.  John Buxton wrote something in the G3S Newsletter maybe ten years ago, but something updated, illustrated and accessible on the website would be really useful.

Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: IanT on Aug 19 2018 00:04
You send me the list and I'll stick it on the Website Mike!   :-)

Regards,

IanT
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: MikeWilliams on Aug 19 2018 10:04
If only I could Ian - and that is the point!

I guess one way might be to write down what I know and what you know and hopefully people will then add to it, but in principle I am wary of very incomplete lists which suggest the author and the Society don't know what they are talking about - which in this case I don't!

What about a thread on this forum somewhere where all can chip in with ones they know - and when it looks reasonably complete then put on the website?

How many are interested in these vintage models anyway?
 
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: IanT on Aug 19 2018 10:48
Trying to compile a complete list of all "commercial" G3 engines ever made (including Vintage) would be a difficult task Mike. The information available on older engines is often scant (just a loco type & brand) - with few good images to match. We do have members who are expert collectors in this area but on grounds of both cost and rarity - I don't think this would have much utility to most people considering G3.

What might be of more use would be a listing of more recent G3 kits & RTR locomotives - where the information (including an image) should be much more readily available - being within (our) living memory. This could form a useful guide to what might be avaialable either new or secondhand to newcomers - without moving into the area of antiquities...

The Associations list of designs is useful but of course includes many N/G locos that are not G3 (which by definition is 'standard' guage).

So (as usual) it's a nice idea but still needs somebody (or bodies) to make it happen.

Regards,

IanT
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: Peaky 556 on Aug 19 2018 13:52

What might be of more use would be a listing of more recent G3 kits & RTR locomotives - where the information (including an image) should be much more readily available - being within (our) living memory. This could form a useful guide to what might be avaialable either new or secondhand to newcomers - without moving into the area of antiquities...

...like a short piece on each of the Kingscale/Pavie designs of live steamer, for instance, with owners encouraged to submit a few words on pros, cons, performance, appearance, accuracy, worthwhile mods, new price, together with some definitive photos to help identification?

Over to those who run them....

Regards, Tim
Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: John Candy on Aug 19 2018 19:51
The basis for a comprehensive listing of available locos, rolling stock, etc. exists at

http://gauge3.info/wiki/index.php?n=AcquiringLocomotivesAndRollingStock.AcquiringLocomotivesAndRollingStock

There are many reviews of kits available (written by both myself and others) and images can easily be attached to the entries.

Just needs someone to co-ordinate the process....any volunteers editors?

John.

Title: Re: 4-6-0 Steam Chassis on Facebook Gauge 3 Railways
Post by: cabbage on Aug 19 2018 20:27
Tagging the known plans and locos to the main index is no real problem -finding examples of them however... I an taking a break from one literature project - I am not alone in this... I can quite easily do this. All I need are pictures!

Regards

Ralph