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Electric loco

Started by cabbage, Apr 05 2019 15:42

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cabbage

To be honest .... I think the price is wildly optimistic!!! It is powered by a Basset Lowke boiler motor as shown in several of the HG books.

Item number is: 123719601326.

Regards

Ralph

Peaky 556

Can you give the link to ebay Ralph, as I get nothing searching on that number?
Thanks, Tim


IanT

"MANY OF THESE ELECTRIC HEAVY BUILT LOCOMOTIVES ARE HIGHLY COLLECTIBLE AND CAN FETCH MANY THOUSANDS AS THERE SOMETIMES ONLY LIMITED NUMBERS OF ELECTRIC TRAINS MANUFACTURED BY CERTAIN COMPANIES"

So I thought I'd ask £4,500 for it!   :-)

Regards,

IanT
Nothing's ever Easy - At least the first time around.

cabbage

It didn't sell... I would be the first to admit that it was an interesting piece of G3 modelling history. Getting it running if the boiler motor has gone would require specialist winding equipment and techniques probably lost through retirement. I once went to Midland Magnetos in Nottingham with a Vertex magneto for repairs - only to find that the name was all they now had to do with magnetoes!!!

If it was running then maybe £300 for a genuine antique would interest me. But at £4,500 I don't think so. Hopefully it will be relisted at something rational...

Regards

Ralph

cabbage

He relisted it again at  £4,500...

Regards

Ralph

Spitfire2865

So I presume this will become one of those 'permanent' ebay listings that will never sell as the seller either has way too much money to recoup or no understanding at the value.
-Trevor Young

MikeWilliams

I think it is very nicely made.  In particular the boiler mountings sit down to the boiler beautifully.  Fully sprung with sprung sideplay on the pony.  Is that a sprung plunger at he front and back for 3-rail pickup?

I suspect it is a model of something, but what?  Furness?  South Wales?

But I agree with the others, even half the price would be a lot.

Mike

John Candy

Would you believe it..........didn't sell first time around so has now been re-listed at 500GBP more than before!
Now asking 4995 for (what looks to me to be) little more than a rusty lump of metal.
It even says it has not been tested and there is no guarantee it would run.......... these antique dealers must take us for mugs!  It claims to be by "Bassett & Locke" (sic) which shows just how much the seller knows (or doesn't in this case) about model trains.

John.
My fellow Members, ask not what your Society can do for you, ask what you can do for your Society.

John Branch

Having read the ad again completely, it looks like the author is only partly literate as well as greedy.  Mind you, we don't know the tale spun by the person who sold it to him!
John Branch

cabbage

I did send a message to the seller the first time it was listed... His reply was "Thank you for your observations and comments... "
I have to admit that it does look like some of the locos made in Germany for B/L but they were at a far smaller scale. Could this be a "one on the side" out of the factory doors?

There has to be some reason that the model is so highly priced? But after having had no sale the last time, what that is -I cannot see....

regards

ralph

MikeWilliams

I hadn't noticed previously that there are three wagons with it too.  I like the engine a lot.  Looks to be well engineered, fully sprung and nicely finished off.  Its just the price that is high.  But the same vendor has a rusty LNER wagon plate for £200 and that's probably five to six times what its worth.  And he has a photographic enlarger (plate glass projector) for £250 very similar to one I have and I'd be delighted with £25!

Mike

MikeWilliams

I think this is a Taff Vale Railway engine, built by Vulcan Foundry and with the raised bunker.  It looks pretty accurate.  That, in my opinion, is both "pretty" and "accurate"!

Think there is a founder member of the Gauge 3 Society with an interest in railways in south wales.

Mike

John Candy

The number (172)  is within the TVR series 170 to 175 which covers the 4-4-2 Tanks of Class "C" which were absorbed by the GWR and renumbered 1301 - 1305 and 1308. First three built 1888, joined by three more in 1891. They are said to have been the first 4-4-2 tanks in the country and had 3-cylinders. Initially used on express trains but soon fitted for auto-train working, sandwiched between four trailers (2+loco+2)

There is a photo of No 172 (as GW 1303) on P.117 of "South Wales Branch Lines" H. Morgan, propelling an auto-train on the Penarth line.
Notes say the Class "C" were all gone by 1927, made redundant when the GWR converted the trailer cars to the GWR auto train control system.

John.
My fellow Members, ask not what your Society can do for you, ask what you can do for your Society.

MikeWilliams

Thanks John.  Like this one:

http://www.penarth-dock.org.uk/09_04_100_03.html

But with the raised bunker.

Mike