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Offline Brian_Torr

ESU LokProgrammer
« on: Aug 14 2021 10:23 »
I've bought an ESU LokSound 5 sound card and ESU LokProgrammer as I understand these are used by ALD models to set up the sound on the new Class 25 RTR models. I'm setting up my own R/C and sound on my 25 as I want to use my Revolution system. However, after reading the manual for the ESU equipment, I see there is no reference to anything other than track powered models! So the initial questions I have are (1) what voltage should I fire up the ESU LokProgrammer with - would 24v DC be ok? and the (2) should the terminals that ESU say go to the test track be instead applied directly to the +ve and -ve on the engine's motor whilst the loco is mounted on a rolling road?

Offline John Candy

Re: ESU LokProgrammer
« Reply #1 on: Aug 14 2021 10:58 »
Hello Brian,

I don't have any knowledge of the Loksound system nor do I know whether anyone here has any Loksound experience but there is a forum at

https://groups.io/g/jmriusers/topic/loksound_forum/34374869?20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,34374869

which may be of help.

Regards,
John.
My fellow Members, ask not what your Society can do for you, ask what you can do for your Society.

Offline Doddy

Re: ESU LokProgrammer
« Reply #2 on: Aug 14 2021 12:36 »
I'm setting up my own R/C and sound on my 25 as I want to use my Revolution system.

Normally the Loksound units work on the power supplied by the DCC feed, however DC analogue can be used but with many limitations, power is still applied via the wheel sets and wired as such, but obviously the decoder needs a few volts before the decoder activates and sound is produced. DCC voltage is normally a maximum of 14 to 16Vac for OO gauge models and 22 - 24vac for G scale models, although obviously DC analogue power would be similar in its maximum range. NB: If the Loksound has not been provided pre-configured by ALD Models then you have the additional task of programming CV's to activate DC mode.

The decoder itself will start to operate between 4 and 6 volts before it produces sound. Will it run through the startup procedure and shutdown? Without getting my hand on one, I have seen nothing to that effect from any videos I have watched. I'm still looking for information on the matter!

Anyway, in your case, you already have a solution ready-made for you with the Revolution DCC Receiver https://www.revoelectronics.com/product/revolution-dcc/dcc-rx.html

NB: You will need to make sure you have the appropriate level of firmware/software in your Revolution transmitter.

I would have been able to help you in a past life, but I have not seen sufficient sales figures to warrant any further development of a Revolution compatible Class 25 sound system.

best regards

Robert
"You don't know what you don't know"

Offline keith Bristol

Re: ESU LokProgrammer
« Reply #3 on: Aug 14 2021 21:35 »
Brian,

Dcc and the 25 is straightforward but not easy. It sets up the same way as I set up my DMU and 08. You don’t need track power.
I’m away on holiday… can help next week
Keith

Offline Brian_Torr

Re: ESU LokProgrammer
« Reply #4 on: Aug 15 2021 20:05 »
Thanks Robert & Keith. Hope you have a great holiday Keith and yes I would value your help on this as I suspect you'll be doing or have done similar. I thought I was taking a sensible approach keeping my Revo and adding ESU sound, but now I'm thinking I may have over complicated things somewhat.

Offline keith Bristol

Re: ESU LokProgrammer
« Reply #5 on: Aug 18 2021 16:00 »
Brian..

You haven’t over complicated it’s just getting head around how it works without a programming track.
I’ll message you