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I found this image of an early design of a 517 Class tank engine circa 1868, and thought it was worth a G3 version. These engines were built at Wolverhampton, where the CME was George Armstrong.
Armstrong was autonomous from Swindon and designed some sucsessful engines. Many early tank engines had saddle tanks before side tanks became standard design as they held more water.

The photo is the only information I could find, a reasonable assumption that the major dimensions are the same as the later versions of the 517 tanks. Knowing the wheel dia and the distance between the axles I scaled the image to G3 sizes and measured the image to create a working drawing.

The model chassis are 1.5mm steel, with the wheels cut from 8mm ali plate.

Mike

This might be of interest on the duckets John.

Let me know if you want some dimensions.

All credit to the original author of the drawing ofcourse.

Thank you for looking.
I rather suspected that would be the case. The only known photo (according to Historic Carriage Drawings Vol 2) of a D561 brake 3rd is that of No.123 which is shown as damaged after the 1913 Ais Gill collision. The other photos are of both sides of a D469 composite (but not the same carriage) and there are variations since they are from different LOTS. They both still have perforated metal vents.
My suspicion is that the majority, over time, had the perforated vents replaced by the louvred type and that the LMS painted over the glass (which would account for opening, apparently unglazed, panels.
I have prepared the attached for the composite.
My attempt at the buffers is also attached, prepared from photos. and rather sketchy drawings.

Drawings are notoriously unreliable and that again is the case with the LMS D1778 50ft PBV which I am working on. The drawing shows an inward-opening guard's door (with corresponding grab rail positions) and a Midland guard's lookout (the rounded-edge type). The photo I have is of one of the last to be built (in 1928) and it has outward-opening guard's door and an angular,  pressed steel, lookout (the type as fitted to Stanier-era stock).

Oh dear. A mixed bag I think John. Some had louvered panels, some no panels at all, some solid openable panels and some clear glazed. I think photos of the particular diagram will be needed. I haven't seen any in the books with frosted glass though (from what I can tell on grainy black and white photos).

Let me have a look John. I have midland carriages volume 1 & 2 by R.E, Lacy.

Kind regards

Thank you all for your kind comments.

If anyone wants to print their own, the files are available to G3 Society members.

To find out more go to https://gauge3.info/SR_Container_README.pdf

The file to print the transfers is at
https://gauge3.info/3D_print_4_yourself/SR_container_transfers.pdf

NOTES ON PRODUCING THE TRANSFERS
Whereas I used my special printer to produce the transfers (it is capable of printing a white backing layer to make the colours of the transfer opaque when using transparent film) it is possible to use an ordinary laser printer with a white decal film and carefully cut around the outline of the "Z" logo. When using this method it will help to surround the logo with an approximation of the "sea green" colour to mask any outline.
The plain lettering (in view of the light green base colour) should print satisfactorily on a transparent decal film if you darken the shade of green from the olive colour of the "Z" logo (it may take a few test prints to get the right depth/shade).

Excellant. 

Jon

Very nice model

Couldn't agree more Ian.  I don't know the prototype but the model looks just superb.  And its colourful too - makes a change from grey, grey, bauxite and grey!

Mike

Another very nice model John!

Well done.

Regards,

IanT