Gueret, Llewellyn and Merrett (GLM) Private Owner coal wagons

[blagdon]

Does anyone have any pictures of GLM wagons or know of any publication with prototype photo's in.
Many thanks in anticipation.

Ian the Gauge '3' Pirate

[454]

Hi Ian,

You mean this one?

GLM (Gueret Llewellyn & Merrett) 20-ton long-wheelbase steel-bodied coal wagon No 91559 as newly built by the Gloucester Railway Carriage & Wagon Co Ltd in August 1933.  The small lettering on the left reads "Empty to Mountain Ash GWR", whilst that on the right reads "Repairs advise Gueret Llewellyn & Merrett Ltd, Bute Docks Cardiff.".

I will email the pic.

Cheers
Dave

[blagdon]

Many thanks Dave; meanwhile I am still hoping for a similar pic of some wooden sided wagons.

Ian the Gauge '3' Pirate

[454]

I thought life could not be that simple.

The search continues......
Unless of course someone beats me to it.

Cheers
Dave
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[MikeWilliams]

Apparently there is a photo in "Coal Trade Wagons" by Len Tavender, which I don't have, so maybe that is the steel wagon referred to by Dave?

But I have seen a photo somewhere - a large wagon, maybe 8-plank?

Mike

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There is a model in the NRM national collection of objects which may be of interest as it is a wooden wagon.
Aberdare marked on it.

http://collectionsonline.nmsi.ac.uk/detail.php?type=related&kv=212026&t=objects

Dave
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[blagdon]

Once again, many thanks Dave; I note it is 12 Ton capacity, but 8 planks, I wonder if it had the same over-all internal height and narrower planks, or was taller - or did it have a larger capacity than 12 Tons?
Interesting!

Also, many thanks to Ian H for the lettering diagram.

Ian the Gauge '3' Pirate

[MikeWilliams]

This one any good Ian?

Mike

[MikeWilliams]

Here's an earlier wagon Ian.  15ft long, 6 planks on the side but wider planks on the end.  Attocks axleboxes and registered with the TVR.  Would make a nice model.

Mike

[MikeWilliams]

And another.  This one also 15ft long with 5 planks and an end door, but a rounded fixed end and registered with the GWR.  Another interesting wagon.  I feel a whole model fleet coming on .....

I should actually have photos of both these wagons somewhere, but can't lay my hands on them just now.  I am however confident that the drawings are accurate as they were made from life by a well respected observer of his time.

Mike

[MikeWilliams]

Sorry - included the attachment this time!

[MikeWilliams]

Been a bit quiet on the Gauge 3 forum recently, so lets prompt some posts.  What happened to this project Ian?  Is it a scratch build job?

Mike

[454]

Do you reckon it is because we are in January Northern Hemisphere hibernation mode?

Just woken out of hibernation to write this posting. I noticed a recent Antipodean bit of forum activity very recently.

Cheers
Dave
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[blagdon]

Mike, the GLM project is currently only at the research stage; but pics of an 8-plank wagon and then one with 'cupboard' doors have simply created the need for more research.
So, the next question is; does anyone have any plans for a P.O. wagon with Scottish style cupboard doors?

And yes it will be a scratch-built - probably a lot easier than the MDF one with cardboard strapping that doesn't line-up I am currently working on.

Ian the Gauge '3' Pirate

[MikeWilliams]

Here's a photo.  Nice short wagon, probably conforms to one of the drawings I posted previously, though I've not checked it.

Does anyone recognise the axleboxes on this one?  Not Ellis or Attocks, maybe they are 1887 type?

Mike